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:iconshaoftickles: Since you are too much of a coward to allow me to dispute your lies, here is my response to your comment:

Tickling is not a Fetish, and liking to engage in tickling minors is not perverted in the least. Any perversion you see is your own. The majority of people see nothing sexual about my stories; you are one of a tiny minority of freaks.

For one thing, I am totally asexual. NOTHING arouses me sexually, so how could I put any "perversion" in my stories? Frankly, I've seen more than a few people trying to rationalize their own sick desire to sexualize children by blaming something like a neutral story, but that's like saying that people who write about murders are murderers themselves, or like the idea of committing murders. That is a completely ludicrous thought, and so is your demented rationalization of your own perversion.

The statement I gave is very true. It takes a real paedo to see paedophilia in media where there is none, and no amount of lying to yourself is going to change the fact that it's all you; not my stories.

If you find sexualization in childhood stories where there are none, you should probably go see a psychologist, because you are one sick monkey! What's next? Are you going to call Harry Potter kiddie porn because the kids are all handling "wands"? That is just how ridiculous your assertion is.
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Shaoftickles Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
Can't really do anything when the mod decides to close that thread. Perhaps you should get familiar with how message boards work before calling me a coward.

Quite frankly, you are full of shit. Your entire gallery is devoted to the tickling of minors. Not the odd story here or there, or a random tickling scene, but the entirety of it. All your stories are based around the tickling of underaged characters. That raises legitimate questions of your motives. Pinning it back on people who point out the obvious is classical reverse psychology - supposedly I am the sick monkey yet you are writing stories of children in bondage situations? Laughably ironic. Tickling might not be a fetish in and of itself but it's most definitely a kink of yours, because you not only obsess about it but also administer other kinks (such as bondage). Gee I wonder if there's a link... hmm... I'll let other people decide on that one, but we know the answer!

You can say that it's my perversion all you want (that doesn't make any sense, considering the criticism is of your work), but I am not the one writing dozens of stories of minors being stripped of their clothes and touched inappropriately. This is simply a defensive mechanism from you to hide your true motives; to deflect blame when challenged. Your Harry Potter analogy makes no sense either; when people watch Harry Potter, they don't associate wands with penises. But when people see that you obsess over minors, bondage and tickling then that's a different matter entirely.

If you are so confident of your stories not having any ulterior motives, then why do you put in a disclaimer with almost every one of them? A little insecure about your position, perhaps? You're not kidding anyone expect your merry band of sick fucks who probably read your stories simply to fap to them. Why would the touching of little boys elicit attention otherwise? Your fabulous writing and storytelling? Give me a break. Most of us know that isn't true; because you're so one dimensional that all you write about is tickling minors. That's the only subject matter - logic tells us that you have an ulterior motive.
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
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Nice bit of irrational self-rationaization of your perversion. I know you're personally too sick to realize how perverted you are, but you are definitely in the minority. Most people appreciate my writing for what it is; fun slices of life that celebrate the most natural form of family entertainment ever.

Hope you get picked up and put in jail for your perversion some day. Meanwhile, stay FAR, FAR away from any children, or I will take great pleasure in beating the unholy shit out of you if I possibly can.
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Shaoftickles Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014
The most natural form of entertainment is actually joke telling.

Hmm yes, put in jail. What laws did I break again? I am not the one writing stories of children in bondage situations getting touched... seems like you are far more likely to commit these crimes, my good sir. You are a walking parody of yourself, your reply here should be directed at yourself. You're the epitome of irony. Getting so self defensive that you are accusing others of perverted acts, whereas you're the one with the stories here. That definitely smacks of ulterior motives or a hidden agenda.

You aren't fooling anyone.
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Touching children is not perverted. Children are very tactile-oriented creature, and we're actually breeding a generation of sociopaths by not giving them the tactile affection and discipline they crave. I never said jail; I said I would stop you, if at all possible.

Your self-rationalization is getting tiresome. Accept that you're a minority and a pervert; the vast majority of my readers see it as what it is; fun, childhood games and the wholesome enjoyment of the innocent laughter of children.

Go crawl back under your rock with the rest of the slime.
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Shaoftickles Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
Yah, it is perverted in this context. See, because you obsess about touching children. That's perverted.

Stop me from what? Calling you what you are?

Your stories also have an element of torture to them, yet I'm the pervert? Wow, you couldn't be more ironic and stupid if you tried.
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
No, YOU'RE perverted for seeing touching children as perverted. Are you saying every single parent or relative that tickled their children is a pervert? Do you comprehend how utterly ridiculous your claim is.

Ah yes, that old sniff. "Writing about torture makes you a torturer". Bullshit. Steven King wrote a short story about boys being forced to go on an endless hike, with any who stopped being shot in the head. Are you going to say that Steven King is a sadist that supports shooting kids in the head?

Have you ever had a logical thought in your life? Have you ever had a thought that wasn't put in your head by a pervert?

Seriously, if you think touching children is perverted, then you are one sick monkey, and one of the contributors to the phenomenon of violent, out-of-control children. Experts say that tactile affection and discipline is an essential element of raising healthy children. Or are you going to claim that anyone who puts his hand on a child's shoulder to stop him from doing something wrong is a pervert? Seriously, go crawl back under your rock!
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Shaoftickles Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014
I think your reverse psychology is highly amusing. Is that the defence paedophiles use these days?

No, I am not saying that. You are using a strawman argument there. The difference between them and you is that relatives tickling their kids is spontaneous, used for moments of bonding. It's important to be physically bonding with your children, as long as it isn't excessive or done with a mindset intended to gratify your own pleasures. You on the other hand, dedicate a large amount of your time writing stories of tickling children, often in bondage situations. A parent or relative would not tie up their children to beds, or strip them almost naked to tickle torture them. So don't be comparing your stories to common, everyday situations.

I would say that King is a bit of a sadist, yes. Someone who will write so much of the same topic would clearly enjoy it, even if it's in a written and fictional form. Does he support it? No, but that's because it would sully his reputation. His books are there to appease the sadistically inclined, for people who like to get a fright. He knows this, I am sure.

I like how you stretch from the context of the current topic to one's entire life. How do you enjoy being irrelevant?

As I have already said, and let me spell it out for you so that you understand: c-o-n-t-e-x-t. Yes, I think stripping children to their underwear and restraining them is perverted. How does make me a sick monkey? That's quite hypocritical coming from someone who often writes about tickling in such a context. What the experts say isn't relevant here unless you can cite expert opinion of restraining a child and tickling them almost bare naked. I'm not sure what your last question has to do with anything, but rather than trying to deliberately misinterpreting me, stick with the topic.

You have a child tickling fetish, don't pretend otherwise. The signs are all there, and I don't need to be a "sick monkey" to say as such. Otherwise, every judge and jury are "sick monkeys" for calling a murderer a murderer. At a point, it gets so obvious when a spade is a spade, your strawman arguments, reverse psychology, and insecure disclaimers with every story doesn't change the facts.
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You really are desperate to rationalize your perversion, aren't you? For the Nth time, I am ASEXUAL. I am not sexually aroused by ANYTHING!! You're the deviant pervert in this case, and you verbiose denial just further proves my point.

Tickling isn't my entire life; once again, you've presumed wrong; likely driven by your sick perverse obsession. You see only a fragment of my life; I have writing projects beyond tickling; I just don't post them here.

There is no such thing as a child tickling fetish, and you're sick in the head for suggesting there is. You're just a paedophile who sees tickling children as erotic.
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BigTHPingBear Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
so true, man.
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LightworkerLeader Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
Nicley said Dorain.  I'm saddened to hear you can get trolls even here on DA.
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J-Wolfe15 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
:clap: Well said, Dorain.
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I misspoke. There is a tickling fetish, but tickling itself is not a fetish. Suggesting that all tickling is fetishistic is like suggesting that every instance of defecating, even in a toilet, is an exercise in fecal fetishness. You're doing some pretty fancy self-deluding in trying to convince yourself that everyone sees perversion where your sick mind sees it. I assure you, that you are a tiny minority.
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TickleSoles Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014
thanks for clarifying that tickling CAN be a fetish, man, i was gonna say something lmao im also asexual, but im homoromantic, so i only get aroused by kissing and cuddling and not sexual intercourse. i feel like because of those branches of asexuality that being asexual associates directly with sexual intercourse and the lack of, because i dont like having sex or watching it, but i also have a very intense tickle/foot fetish. its actually a shame we have to even use the word fetish because it just makes someone's sexuality seem like it's dirty or abnormal. i cant defend the guy you're talking about because i have no idea what he said to offend you, but since you're proud of your own sexuality, i don't think you should bash others =/

and while i DO agree with your artistic freedom claiming to not tie in with sexuality or fetishism, you SHOULD expect most of your fan base to be fetishists. you're right that ALL tickling and stories about minors are not fetishized, but it's kind of hard to argue when you have a lot of stories based around that. i havent read all of your stories, ill admit, but ive read a lot, and a lot of them are tickling. i also agree with what you say about how not all defecating is considered fetishized, but if you knew an author who wrote lots of stories about people taking dumps in great detail, you would kinda ask yourself some questions, wouldn't you?
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
So you're saying that Agatha Christie and Steven King, who write stories with a lot of death in them, are murderers? That's what your reasoning is saying. There is an appeal to tickling that is pure and unsullied; the music of a young voice laughing, the smiles; the cute squirming. Tickling the kids was the first Family Entertainment. Are you going to suggest that we're all a species of paedophiles?

Incidentally, Paedophilia is not a sexuality; it is a deviant mental state, and as thus, is open for all the bashing anyone might wish to inflict upon it.
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TickleSoles Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
See, your argument becomes educational and valid, and then you start to bash sexualities and sound like a child. While a fetish isn't scientifically described as a sexuality, fetishes have a LOT to play in the world of sexuality, something you're innocently biased in discussing because you claim to be completely asexual. Just because you don't understand something, it does NOT entitle any sort of bashing. You should be aware of that. A fetish is not a mental state (way to make it sound like an illness). If something makes you horny, that doesn't mean your brain's messed, it means your brain works differently. I mean, you're asexual, I would ASSUME you could relate to that. And Agatha Christie and Steven King write stories about murder because they are HORROR novelist and murder and mystery fall into that category. For all we know there ARE weirdo's who read horror books for the sexual thrill of murder, because that too falls into the sexual spectrum. Psychologically, the act of murder is chemically fulfilling and ecstatic as it is to have sex with someone, but I'm not going to go there.

The point is that for someone like you who's most likely had experience with segregation and isolation to dish out hate on someone who's just a tad bit different is extremely hypocritical.
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Now you're reading hate into an article where there is none. I am disappointed that you chose to post lies about me and refused to allow me to have my say, but there is no hate. Fetishes ARE a deviant mental state; just as much as asexuality is a deviant mental state as well. Deviant means "Not Mainstream", and if you think your tickling fetish is mainstream, then I have to break it to you that it is not.

Agatha Christie and Steven King are horror novelists whose novels contain brutal murders. I'm a "Slice of Life"/Family novelist whose work contains situations no less fictional than King's or Christie's murders. Why are you choosing to see it as something that it isn't? Is it because you get aroused by tickling? That is not my fault. If a sociopath gets aroused by vivid, detailed descriptions of murder and death, does that make Steven King a Death Fetishist? Does that make his work Death Fetish Art? Of course not.

An objective observer would note that there are absolutely no mainstream sexual elements in my stories; none whatsoever. The deviance of the reader does not reflect on the artist's work. In fact, it's a sign of good writing when a reader projects some elements of himself into a story. That makes it a good story. While you're desperate to paint my stories as sexual, you are just admitting your own over-the-top sexuality. I know for a fact that there are people who get sexually aroused by Dr. Seuss and Mother Goose stories. Those still remain children's stories despite the deviance of a few readers.

Accept your own deviance; don't try to project it onto me because you will fail.
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TickleSoles Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
DUDE, your first post said that we were freaks. "you are one of a tiny minority of freaks" - your words. THAT is hate, not matter how justified you may find it. " and so is your demented rationalization of your own perversion" there's some more of your hate, word for word, calling us demented. Has anyone called you demented for not wanting to have sex? If you haven't, I have, and it doesn't feel any different if you have 1 or 0 fetishes or you have sex 10 or 0 times a week. The point I was trying to make initially was that it doesn't matter what the intention behind your stories are, but everything in the world has some sort of sexual attraction to it, and you just need to keep your mind open to that and not be so offended when someone suggests your stories contains fetishes. if anything you should be saying "hey thanks for reading my stories, im glad you get a kick out of them, anything to keep you coming back", but instead you start sounding like Mother Russia saying shit like "it is a deviant mental state, and as thus, is open for all the bashing anyone might wish to inflict upon it". You just told me that I'm not letting you have your say, but I am, I'm just debating it because I just feel like you're a little bit closed-minded. And I don't want you to think I'm angry, or anything like that, I'm just confused about your point of view is all. 

You were right that not all things ARE fetishistic, but it's the fact that they CAN be fetishistic, and there's nothing you can do to avoid that because you're posting your work on deviantart, and deviantart has a strong fetish community. im 100% aware that a tickling fetish isn't mainstream, and i didn't say it was, but look where you're posting your stories, i mean, come on. But obviously you are the writer of your stories, so you know what you're putting in there, you're aware of the genre, you're not trying to fool anyone or throw in subliminal. but here's the rule of thumb for ANYTHING IN EXISTENCE: if it exists, there's porn for it. Haha, that's a popular 4chan rule. This isn't 4chan, but you get my point. Just because someone finds sexuality in something that isn't there, that doesn't mean you need to correct them. Like we both said, SOME people probably find sexuality in stephen king books and such, and i'm sure King is totally aware of that, but I've never heard him tell anyone who thought that "you're wrong, it's not sexual, if you think so you're a minority and a freak". If you plan on becoming a novelist, you really need to open your eyes. I don't want you to take this offensively because I'm not trying to tell you your stories are freaky and you need to change them or that your ENTIRE fanbase is based on fetishism. If your stories weren't structured well, I wouldn't even be reading them. Just try to keep an open mind. If someone likes your story for something it wasn't made for, then oh well, say Thanks and move on. If someone tries to pin you down as a fetish novelist and that bugs you, then ignore them and don't give them the satisfaction of making a journal post about them.

I'm not against you here, just try to be a bit more accepting. That's all. Cheers.
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Dorain1 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I know what is in my stories, and there is absolulte ZERO sexual content, and frankly, the fact that some people find the tickling of children to be erotic in any way disturbs the hell out of me. You have a very singular perspective, and you are being intolerant of people who do not see that disturbing kiddie-porn perspective that you seem to perceive. Yes, I called them freaks. That's not hate. I called myself a freak in a later post. It is frankly impossible to read emotion from a text message, so if you're seeing hate, it's your own hate that you're projecting onto me. Frankly, due to my religious beliefs and mood medications, I simply cannot hate anyone. I hate the things that some people do, but I don't hate anyone; not even politicians that make my life a living hell trying to get the medical care I need.

So be careful of whom you say is being hateful, and search your own soul if you think you're seeing it in an emotionally-neutral statement.
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TickleSoles Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014
i thot it was just a rule of thumb that if you dont have anything nice to say then just dont say it. im sure whatever this Shaoftickler guy said to you to piss you off was very forward and probably rude or else he wouldn't have ticked you off. if i knew what he said, i probably would have told him to shut up too and to not force his fetishes onto you. im not forcing my fetish, im just telling you that the fetish exists, and when you call someone a freak, you HAVE to expect them to be a little ticked off as well, the word freak has never been a happy word for anyone, dont be ignorant. you cant bash a whole group of people because there was one you found that was a little bit of a prick. 
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